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Today's story belongs to Zoraida. My mom died when I was 33.
And even then, like, 20 years later, there was still no discussion
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We'll never know exactly when our last day is, what I last meal will
be, or who the last person is. We'll see the last person we speak
to, the last person we touch. But for the person that does
stay behind, the last time is never forgotten.
My dad was working a night shift that that evening, and I went to
his room and he was lying. He was sitting up in bed and he
had these chest pains and he was groaning.
Zoraida was the last person to see her dad alive.
She was the last person to speak to him.
She was also the last person to comfort him.
And as a teenager, she was in conflict with her mom.
And I said to him, you know, come get up. Dad.
And I could tell that something was wrong, but I didn't call for.
I didn't call for my mom. Um, and then I just sat with him.
I think I was rubbing his back or touching his back,
and then he just toppled over in front of me and was dead.
And then I started screaming. I vividly remember getting onto
the bed and just jumping up and down like screaming, and it felt
like it took the longest time for my mom to actually come upstairs.
I don't know why they took that long, but they took a really long time.
And, um, you know, they tried to give him mouth to mouth and I just,
I then head away. I remember hiding away.
It was still those days where the doctors would come to your home.
And so a doctor came to our home, and he just walked down the stairs,
and he looked at me and he shook his head, and I guess that was
he's dead. Um, yeah. The next morning, rising to her feet
filled with grief and confusion, Feelings of indescribable loss.
Zoraida polished her school shoes and headed off to class.
No one said to me, Zoraida, would you like to stay home?
There was no. What was that like? There was no therapy.
I was alone with my dad when he died. No one spoke to me about it.
It was certainly my first entry into the feeling of abandonment and
profound loss, and also the start to my hypervigilance, my hyper
independence, my hyper burnout. You know, I don't come from a
family that communicated. There was no processing that
happened when you passed away. And my dad, my dad was Muslim.
And Muslim people get buried, you know,
kind of immediately when they die. My dad died on the 22nd of March and
was buried on the 22nd of March, and I went to school the next day.
There is an undeniable shift in the way you see the world when you watch
a loved one take their last breath. And when you're dealing with regular
teenage feelings of insecurity, peer pressure and pimples.
Your brain is trying its utmost to make sense of the trauma,
the only way it knows how. And so all this coping led to a
lot of dysfunctional behavior. And when I say dysfunctional,
I'm not talking about sex, drugs and rock and roll.
I'm talking about just coping and trying to achieve more and more and
more and becoming hyper independent, because I was so scared that no
one was going to be able to take care of me.
So I had to make sure that I could take care of myself.
My mom didn't say to me, he's a writer, we've got no money.
I mean, my mom didn't work, but my dad certainly didn't
leave you no money. My sister's 12 years older than me,
and so she'd been working at the time.
So she definitely helped us financially.
But no one put pressure on me to go out and work.
No one put pressure on me to achieve. I did that to myself.
So my dad's loss was my what? I made sense of what abandonment was,
and that was because no one spoke to me.
No one spoke to me or helped me process stuff.
I mean, the fact that I went into broadcasting is no surprise.
I've always been a communicator and, um, I've always loved and enjoyed and
celebrated speaking about feelings. And I would speak to my mum
about my feelings all the time, and she inevitably would make fun
of me, and so would my aunts. In fact, that very day, the reason
I went upstairs to go and be with my dad is because I was trying to
speak to my mum about something and she wouldn't listen to me.
And so I walked away and my aunt actually said, oh,
she's going to go and write a letter, because that's what I used to do.
I used to write letters, you know, when I, when I didn't feel heard.
And then I went upstairs to my dad and that's when all of that happened.
But I used to write letters to my mum all the time because I
just did not feel heard. Grief has a way of forcing us into
places and spaces we don't normally choose to go, a landscape that
we never intended to visit and one that doesn't offer a break.
It's kind of like walking into a dense forest on the outskirts.
You can almost see some familiar paths of your old life,
with friends and loved ones standing there at the edge, peeking in.
There's a part of the wilderness that is yours to navigate alone.
This universal journey is distinctly different for each
individual who walks it. I've stumbled through this forest a
few times, but not the kind of forest that Zoraida has journeyed through.
I think much of my teenage years and 20s were spent in fight or
flight mode. It was spent in just trying to cope,
trying to keep my head above water. I found a part time job when I
was 13 years old. By the time I was in matric,
I was paying for my own school fees for my own uniform.
And then when I was 27 years old, I was at 5 a.m. and I had just
finished Strictly Come Dancing at one one, that reality TV show.
I was so burnt out. I woke up one morning and I had
a complete bald patch in the front of my head.
I had alopecia areata and the doctor said to me,
you are completely stressed out. And it had been like so many years.
I resigned from five of em. I was one of the first people to
resign. I mean, you know, in radio,
no one ever resigns. You either get fired or your
contract doesn't get renewed. I resigned, and Josh and I went to
America on a five year sabbatical, and it was one of the biggest,
most beautiful gifts we could have given to ourselves.
But yeah, that was a huge shift in my life.
No matter the time of day, there was always a radio on in
the home Zoraida grew up in, from John Burke on 702 to
Christiane Amanpour on CNN. Journalism and storytelling is what
drew, Zoraida to broadcasting. And that at the time wasn't
linked to fame and fortune. So it really was an honest
attraction, using my voice to speak to lots of people.
And I also know psychologically where it comes from.
I saw it as something that I really wanted to do and a job.
When I came down to Cape Town and I auditioned at good Hope FM,
I was working three other jobs whilst training at good Hope FM,
um, and then went to five FM. And so and here's the interesting
thing is that I was celebrated by the South African community, but I wasn't
really celebrated by my family. So my mum never, ever made a big
deal out of what I was doing. And nor did my sister.
Like they never went, oh my gosh, I can't believe you're a radio
DJ or I can't believe you're on five FM or can't believe you're
on TV like my mum. Never ever, ever ever spoke
about what I did. Never. So there was I in many ways,
just felt like I was doing a job that I enjoyed very much.
And so when I went overseas, I've been doing some work for top billing.
I used to do their movie and music junkets in the States, but I also
became a waitress, so I was a waitress at the Chateau Marmont.
The one of the hotels in Los Angeles. And I would have moments where I
would go to the Four Seasons Hotel to get an interview.
Keanu Reeves or Ryan Gosling or, you know, any one of those figures,
the Rock. And then that night,
I'd see them at a catering function at the Chateau Marmont.
So I would go from, you know, being all glammed up as a
so-called journalist. And then that evening I'd be
their waitress. So I didn't ever feel,
I don't know if importance the right word or celebrate as the right word,
but I didn't feel special. Let me just remind you that
Zoraida made media history as the first female to host a
daytime slot on five FM. She also hosted the reality TV show
Big Brother and won the very first season of Strictly Come Dancing SA.
So while her family may not have celebrated her achievements with her,
the South African public were paying very close attention.
There were times when I would feel like an object.
You know, like you walk through a shopping center and then
people are talking about you. And I remember hating that feeling
like, why don't you just come up to me and say hello? Don't. I'm not.
I'm not a vase, you know, like, speak to me. Mhm.
And so that's always and in fact today it still doesn't sit well
with me. If I walk past a group of people
and they talk about me I get really uncomfortable.
I'm like, if you acknowledge me like come and say hello.
Like let's talk, say hello. I've often wondered how someone
that is really well known feels about the fame that they've
acquired and endured his case. We know that she wanted to
follow in the footsteps of established journalists.
That's why she got into broadcasting. So when the public who have watched
you on TV and heard you on the radio, seeing you in magazines for years,
when they have developed a picture of who you are and what you're about,
how will they react when you emerge from the other side of
this dense grief forest changed and ready to pursue a new dream.
What I do know is that when I wanted to shift into health and wellness,
I was so scared that I wouldn't be taken seriously by the South
African community. I was so scared that they were
going to go, oh, who does she think she is to go from being a
radio DJ or television host, you know, wanting to tell us now
how we should breathe or how we should think or feel or act.
And so getting a degree was, you know, was twofold.
First of all, I came from an uneducated family.
You know, both my parents hadn't finished school.
Um, I didn't have, you know, good marks when I was in school.
And and even if I did, we certainly didn't have the
funds for me to go to university. So there was a longing for
formal education. And so I applied at Wits
University to study psychology. And I, you know,
I became a full time student. I was 40 years old with 18 year old,
19 year old students, and I wanted to break that generational narrative
of my family not being educated and no one having a degree to me,
breaking that cycle. Um, and I'm now embarking on my PhD.
I haven't stopped studying for the last ten years.
At first, it became about having to get the credential so that I,
you know, am taken seriously. And now it's more about my love
of learning. I mean, if you if you had said to
me ten years ago, you're going to love academia and research and data,
I'd be like, no, the wrong person. And yet here I am, you know?
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What does it take to break free of Societal norms, do you think?
I think the fact that we want to break free means that we are in a bit
of a mess. And so what does it take? It takes turning your mess into
your life message. We are not inspired by people
that have it all together. I did a talk and a breathwork
session and this lady, two minutes into my breathwork
session, she had a breakthrough. It was just her getting still
that allowed a lot of emotions to come up because we often,
like me up until my 20s, was just doing stuff to cope, cope, cope.
And when you give yourself permission to be still,
so much comes up for you. And in the two minutes that she gave
herself the gift of being still, she just had a breakthrough and
started crying. And she said to me afterwards,
I'm so embarrassed that that happened because, you know, I've got my my
staff around me and I didn't want them to see me in that position.
And they look at me for strength and blah, blah.
And I just said to her, do you even realise how powerful
that moment was for your staff. They don't want to see you as
someone that has it all together. They want to see their leader as
someone that is human, and we need more of that.
You can't go within if you don't get quiet.
You can't because our brains are working all the time and they
are functioning and taking up energy in this moment.
There's so much that's happening. But if we shut our eyes and we just
go within, we're going to have a totally different experience.
You have to give you you have to give yourself permission to do that.
And daily it's it's vital we're all going through things that people,
other people can't see. And if we don't take the moments
to be okay, eventually I think we will turn to
dysfunctional behavioral habits that will inevitably not serve us.
And so taking those moments to be alone, to give yourself permission.
It starts with you. The path you follow in a grief
forest is often overgrown by thick underbrush and towering trees.
At first, the weight of sorrow feels suffocating, as if the
branches are closing in around you. Each step forward seems almost
pointless, with memories fading in and out,
reminding you of what you lost. You may stumble and fall into
clearings where the sunlight breaks through the canopy above.
In these spaces, when you're on your knees, you start to see the beauty
that remains even in the pain and getting back to your feet just as
quickly as the clearing appeared. It disappears behind you,
and the journey continues with its twists and turns sometimes
leading to even darker paths. The forest teaches us that this thing
called grief is not a linear path, but a much more complex and vast
tapestry of emotions each phase. Be it sorrow, anger, or acceptance,
contributes to your growth. Wade through the forest long enough.
Sit still long enough. Giving yourself permission to
grieve deeply. Helps you develop a better sense
of yourself. We've got to stop attaching what
we do to who we are because it is so detrimental.
Like, who are you without being the DJ? Who are you without the degree?
Who are you without being a mother? Like all these things that, you know,
we put as titles on our on our profiles, you know, because that's
really who you are, you know. And those titles can be taken
away in a nanosecond. And so it's, it's I really feel
that a lot of this pressure, you know, the pressure that we talk
about right now comes from us. I think we put it on ourselves first.
We really do. I don't think it comes from
other people. You know, I love the saying we
don't see people as people are. We see people as we are.
So this pressure is stuff that we putting on ourselves.
And you don't have to be one thing for the rest of your life.
You can change at any time and you're here once no one gets out alive.
So do your thing. Change, shift, pivot.
You know you don't have to stick to your lane.
Zoraida was 13 years old when her dad died of a heart attack.
Growing up in a household that didn't communicate or share feelings
meant that Sarita turned inward. Her immense loss was
internalized and translated into a sense of abandonment.
And when you experience abandonment coupled with being othered,
you quickly start believing that the only person you can rely on is you.
I am a huge proponent of not being a victim.
My dad's passing could easily have made me a victim,
but it didn't because I chose for that not to happen.
I've I've taken that cataclysmic Talismanic moment, and it's inspired
me to be the best version of myself.
Zoraida has two teenagers, but unlike the home that she
grew up in, Zoraida speaks with her children about everything.
I have a 15 year old daughter. She challenges me a lot,
and she reminds me a lot of the time that I have innate
behaviors of my mom coming up. Um, you know, there are certain
things that we adopt through learning environments, like.
So, for example, my kids, whenever I call them, their response
is always, are we in trouble? And they never in trouble because
we talk about everything. Just unlike my home where we
spoke about nothing, in my home we talk about everything.
But I have a voice that is clearly laden with trauma and pain.
And when I call their names, it comes out.
So she teaches me all the time to become aware that I am no
longer in fighting flight mode. She teaches me that all the time.
She's a wise little soul. My son is a completely different
personality. You know, I have a really
special bond with my son. My husband's mother really was
gaga over her two sons, and I used to find it so irritating.
I remember when we got married, she was like, I'm going to walk
you down the aisle, Joshua. And I was like, absolutely not.
That is not what a mother does with her son.
And then I had my son, and the first thing I said to him was,
I'm going to be walking you down the aisle. Um, yeah.
My son is, uh, he's Pisces, like me. So we very much connected in that we
both really, really sensitive souls. I'm very close to both my children.
They very different. And, um. Uh, yeah, we've decided to keep them.
Oh, good. I'm sure they're relieved. Your kids might never listen to this,
but in the context of a podcast living online potentially forever,
is there anything that you'd like for them to know about how you grew
up and how you've developed and the mindset that you've developed?
Say something about you that you hope they carry with them as they
continue to get older in years and have their own families? Yeah.
Wow, what a powerful question. Um. I think I'd like to say that I'm
really grateful to have the kids that I do, because I speak to them
very openly about where I come from, because I put a lot of where I
come from onto them. And I know that sometimes it
brings pressure. So, for example, I didn't have
any material stuff growing up. And so when they lose something
or they break something, they hear about my life story or,
you know, my kids go to good schools and I didn't go to a good school.
And so I throw that in there. Phase two.
You know, I didn't get that. Um, and through all of that,
they know like, they know that when they compare me to their father.
Um, I didn't come from privilege at all.
And their honor me often with that. Um, the honor me often and say,
I'm sorry that that didn't happen in your family.
And it's really powerful because young teenagers are not supposed
to do that, and they don't usually do that.
And so even though I am their parent, I feel so seen by my children.
I feel I feel like I'm not their leader, that we are just all
walking each other home. Mm. Wherever home may be.
You know, I feel like they walk me home and I walk them home.
Hand in hand. Yeah. That's a beautiful sentiment.
Zoraida is an Arabic name and means one who is eloquent and
holds positive qualities. Sirajuddin lives up to her name
as she continues to breathe life into the best version of herself.
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